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May 10, 2005

War

A little commentary.

A Muslim site here has been "stealing" my bandwidth by sourcing an image from my site; This image. They are apparently a pretty radical anti-American site. While I sympathise in general with the downtrodden, their vitriol goes way too far.

So I replaced that image. With this:

My commentary to a muslim site.
Posted by Frank at May 10, 2005 12:47 PM
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I've had a GPSclock for a year or two, and it's mostly worked well.

But on to my comment. I can't fathom your, or others, extreme & mindless hatred for conservatives. It's nice that you "dislike" the muslim vitriol, but then you "loath" (HATE - why not use this four letter word; be honest!) Bush, Cheney, etc. Hate our guys, but only dislike them? How pathetic. And I suspect that it's fine for you to do something to others, while you so dislike it when something is done to you. Hypocritical, not to mention violates the Golden Rule. It's perfectly valid to hate the evil of the muslim extremists and terrorists, but would you have Bush & Cheney hate you? We're all americans, 'though we may disagree on some things.

Conservatives, especially listeners of Rush, are called "mind-numbed robots," but liberals are so often "mind-LESS." Rabid liberals will probably be foaming at the mouth for the next 30 years due to 1) the lack of any (found) WMDs in Iraq, and 2) Bush's win in 2000 (a legal and electoral process by the way). It's not been said enough that liberals, democrats, and whoever else, have been mostly critical and obstructionist, while offering (very) few solutions! How pathetic and shallow.

Why can't, NO won't, liberal elites (like you) be intellectually honest, and examine ALL of the facts rather than the "Michael Moorer crap" type approach?! If liberal elites are truely intelligent, and yet act the way they (you) do, then their hearts must be in a spiritual mess, but then the heart of "all" men is "deceitful" & "desparately wicked."

P.S. I have no hesitation at including my name & address. I'm absolutely confident in my statements.

Posted by: Dave Thomas at June 17, 2005 6:47 AM

Dave, for someone who says he wants intellectual honesty, you're awfully close to actually frothing at the mouth. Personally, I don't understand what you're so damned upset about. As it is, Bush, Chaney and the rest of the so-called "conservatives" are in control at the moment. The rest of us are just trying to preserve a little liberty in the face of things like the Patriot Act, Guantanamo Bay and American torturers.

I don't have "hatred for conservatives." I reserve my loathing, that is, my utter dislike and disgust, my detestation, for those who transparently lie to serve their own ends, have only those ends in mind with no thought to the country itself and who will do quite literally anything in pursuit of those ends. Chaney, Wolfowitz, Delay, many others currently in control. I don't include Bush in that list simply because I find him too ignorant and stupid to be such a villain. He is simply vain and utterly self-absorbed. Chaney knows what he is doing, Bush doesn't and doesn't care. And while that might not be loathsome in a man, it is indeed in the President of the United States.

You claim that I am not "intellectually honest." Yet in your ranting you ignore the humanity of those whom you oppose. By no means do Muslims in general hate us, although that is rapidly changing in the face of the atrocities in Iraq and Afghanistan. When I said that I disliked the "vitriol" of the site to which I referred, I meant exactly that. What I could understand, I disliked. But I could understand it, because I am intellectually honest enough to realize that were I in their position, I might feel much the same. Injustice is the same whether one is white, brown or black, whether one is Christian, Islamic, Jewish or an atheist such as myself.

Certainly not all of this is the fault of the current Administration. But much of it is.

Tell me, is America safer now than it was on September 12, 2001? Be sure you check the terrorism statistics that the State Department has, for the first time, failed to publish this year. Terrorism is near an all-time high. If this is a "war on terror," we're losing, and it's the folks that are pushing it that are losing it. Idiots like Don Surber may claim that the Left has lost it, but as the Left has been pretty much out of power for the last four years, that hardly seems likely, does it? The people that are promoting this war are the ones who are losing it. And indeed we seem doomed to repeat history, right down to the jargon used by the military. Sure, it's in the Middle East rather than Southeast Asia this time, but it's sure and certain that we learned nothing, nothing, from our experience in Viet Nam.

Dave, if you want "intellectual honesty," explain the Downing Street Memo to me. That it, explain it better than the White House has.

I don't mind conservatives so much. In fact, I'm a lot less of a "leftist" than I am a moderate, something that can probably be said of most liberals. But the current Administration and the times themselves have pushed me to the left.

It is not only the right but the responsibility of Americans to dissent. To speak out when they see an injustice perpetrated. To confront a liar. And I've seen more lies and injustice in the last five years than there has been in the halls of power since Nixon and Viet Nam. Or perhaps before.

I don't like being lied to. Clinton lied when he claimed not to have had sex with "that woman." That pissed me off. Bush lied when he claimed that Saddam Hussein had "weapons of mass destruction." So far, over 1,700 Americans are dead because of that lie, not to mention uncountable thousands of Iraqis.

Justify that.

"Intellectual honesty," my ass. Show me a "intellectually honest" conservative, these days, and I'll show you a Democrat. Republicans don't want "intellectual honesty," because it might get in the way of their power-grabbing and pocket-lining.

Feh.

Posted by: Frank at June 17, 2005 9:50 PM

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